Daggers soon

[One Ear]

First off this is a completely ridiculous item to argue about but it just goes to show how desperate I am to find a reason not to write this journal article.

[Vitandus]

I have thoroughly enjoyed this thread.

[Vitandus]

Oh, one more thing:

[Daemus]

Cool Machinima video too.  (even if the music is bad).

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[Capuloclavo]

First off this is a completely ridiculous item to argue about but it just goes to show how desperate I am to find a reason not to write this journal article.

I understand.  Boredom is a great motivator.

My argument was based on 3 things:

1.- Your broadly generalized (and incorrrect) statement that "Ninja's and other assassins throughout time used swords".  My original statement was that I didn't get sword rogues, based on my knowledge of the assassin/rogue archetype throughout military history.  My original statement had nothing to do with the fantasy setting that is WoW.  Your reply was based on your incorrect assumption of what you thought you knew about military history.    You were trying  represent an incorrect statement as historical fact.  I responded with the historical facts and gave you references to show you that you were wrong.

2.-Your statement that sapping is nearly impossible with a dagger because of the physics involved.  Again, my statement was based on my knowledge of military history, and modern fighting tactics, especially in regards to Military Special Forces throughout the world.  My statement had nothing to do with the fantasy setting that is WoW.  Your reply was based on your incorrect knowledge of actual fighting methods in regards to daggers in use with hand to hand combat.   You were trying to represent an incorrect statement as Scientific fact.  I responded with the documented facts and gave you references to show you that you were wrong.

3.- Your statement that Ambush shouldn't be daggers only.  Again, my statement was based on my knowledge of medieval military fighting techniques, and supplemented by the "daggers only requirement" -since that's all the information I have from Blizzard.  Putting it into a historical, not fantasy, framework, a dagger would be the best bet, and you would always assume your victim was wearing chain at the least, if not full plate, and go for the safest  and most tried and true method of attack, between the neck and shoulder. I responded with the top 2 reference books on medieval fighting, which, if you read, will agree with my statements and show you that you were wrong.

Obviously, as Pat said, "It's a game! With Spells!"  Which is what your reply should have been instead of trying to assert what you believed was correct.  We could ambush with dandelions and soda straws, and my penis could squirt death urine that passes invisibly through walls and impregnate virgins.

As far as history goes you must include historical fiction and pop culture including anime, for better or worse, into your estimation of how to understand the basis for these  characters as they are built into a fantasy world. This being said I think that a orc rogue is more likely to use an axe than a dagger if given the choice. This is baised on a "historical" perspective given to a large overly aggressive green skin individuals who have in the past carried axes into battles.

Well, Oakshott doesn't say much about Orcs.  I'd guess Tolkien's Ring Trilogy would be a better set of reference books.  Though the word orc goes back to Beowulf and could mean either "walking dead" , "giant" or "jug".  So, Blizzard can't even get orcs right.

[Acree]

If you want to talk about orcs, you should be referencing Warhammer 40k.  The greatest orcs evar!

Cause if you paint it red, it will go faster.

[Spankymctank]

If you want to talk about orcs, you should be referencing Warhammer 40k.  The greatest orcs evar!

Cause if you paint it red, it will go faster.

"Waaagh!"